let us work toward elimination the huge polluting industries for gasoline refining and distribution
Unlikely. If we keep doubling-down on vehicle infrastructure, the remaining ICE vehicles will see greater vehicle-miles traveled (VMT). It’s not just the number of cars out there, it’s the number of cars multiplied by the distances that they travel.
let us shrink the huge polluting industries of oil extraction and refining
Unlikely. The industrial processes and materials used to produce EVs use copious quantities of petrochemicals.
are a huge step toward slowing the growth of climate change.
Unlikely. EVs still need the same infrastructure as ICE vehicles, and the chemical process of curing concrete alone is one of the major sources of CO2 emissions. As well, the ecological destruction wrought by automobile infrastructure is a significant contributor to climate change.
EVs still need the same infrastructure as ICE vehicles
Hmmm, I haven’t taken mine to a gas station in two years. I must be way overdue.
Now I know you’re moving the goalposts to roads when I was talking gasoline industry, but let me point out where I started
While I completely agree transit, and walkable cities are much better, EVs are not nothing.
More importantly I do live in a partly walkable town. I do use transit when I can. And yes I have the privilege of living in one of the few parts of the US where intercity rail is decent
Talking only about the gasoline industry when considering climate change is, at best, ineffective. What’s more, that’s exactly what the cartoon is calling out, i.e. touting the reduction in tailpipe emissions while ignoring all the myriad other ways that EVs are just like ICE vehicles. (Which includes large contributions to climate change.)
Gasoline industry is the worst offender, the single worst source of trouble. If we remove it alone, we will be fine with everything else, and there is no single thing we can do that will bring even comparable effect. Stopping meat farming, maybe, but that’s it. If we have to focus on something, and given all the political climate, we have to focus on something, there is nothing else we can focus on.
I don’t have all the math at hand, but I bet if we totally do the calculations, Netherlands level of public infrastructure but no EV will be at least comparable levels of destructive as American level of car-dependancy, but EV only.
Unlikely. If we keep doubling-down on vehicle infrastructure, the remaining ICE vehicles will see greater vehicle-miles traveled (VMT). It’s not just the number of cars out there, it’s the number of cars multiplied by the distances that they travel.
Unlikely. The industrial processes and materials used to produce EVs use copious quantities of petrochemicals.
Unlikely. EVs still need the same infrastructure as ICE vehicles, and the chemical process of curing concrete alone is one of the major sources of CO2 emissions. As well, the ecological destruction wrought by automobile infrastructure is a significant contributor to climate change.
Hmmm, I haven’t taken mine to a gas station in two years. I must be way overdue.
Now I know you’re moving the goalposts to roads when I was talking gasoline industry, but let me point out where I started
More importantly I do live in a partly walkable town. I do use transit when I can. And yes I have the privilege of living in one of the few parts of the US where intercity rail is decent
Talking only about the gasoline industry when considering climate change is, at best, ineffective. What’s more, that’s exactly what the cartoon is calling out, i.e. touting the reduction in tailpipe emissions while ignoring all the myriad other ways that EVs are just like ICE vehicles. (Which includes large contributions to climate change.)
Gasoline industry is the worst offender, the single worst source of trouble. If we remove it alone, we will be fine with everything else, and there is no single thing we can do that will bring even comparable effect. Stopping meat farming, maybe, but that’s it. If we have to focus on something, and given all the political climate, we have to focus on something, there is nothing else we can focus on.
I don’t have all the math at hand, but I bet if we totally do the calculations, Netherlands level of public infrastructure but no EV will be at least comparable levels of destructive as American level of car-dependancy, but EV only.