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      Its really pathetic. You would think they would follow the lead if the other actual real artists and prove that it can be art like the ones that have come before and not just whine that they aren’t accepted.

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      Straight out of AI mouth:

      Using AI is no different than using Photoshop or a camera—you’re still the artist steering the vision, selecting, and refining the outcome, not just placing an order.

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        Absolutely 100% wrong. You’re placing an order in the faint hope of the result being “just about” what you wanted. Demands for small changes usually result in tons of weird side effects. You’re not in control, and daring to compare it to actual photo editing or photography is cocky at best.

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        you could have just actually engage with the comment? Did AI already took your capability of thinking?

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            I have to agree with the guy above you. It feels like you’re just tossing an idea on the ground then waiting for people to interact with it. Are you trying to ragebait people into interacting with you?

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    digital artists aren’t real artists because they’re using a computer to create art

    woodworkers aren’t real artists because they’re using a table saw and glue to create art

    poets aren’t real artists because they’re using a dictionary and thesaurus to create art

    chefs aren’t real artists because they’re using an immersion blender and gas range to create art

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      Your obviously bad faith argument excludes the distinction between tool and automaton.

      All the things you listed are tools. They are objects that assist humans with performing a process.

      “Generative” ai is an automaton. A human gives it an instruction and it performs a process fully independent of human action.

      Hiring someone to draw a picture and then signing your name on it doesn’t make you an artist, and that’s exactly what every ai “”“artist”“” is doing.

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        All the things you listed are tools … ai is an automaton. A human gives it an instruction and it performs a process fully independent of human action.

        Computers are tools in exactly the same way. A person isn’t moving data from one memory location to another. That’s automated by the processor.

        You could say the same about a table saw: a human isn’t separating sequences of molecules with their hands, it’s automated by a machine.

        AI is not different from the above tools.

        My argument isn’t “bad faith” just because you disagree with it; your lack of understanding is not sufficient to disprove the assertion. Come prepared, or don’t come.