You said this in the other thread as well, so I’ll just put my reply from there in here as well:

Because they amount to less than 10% of the total number (less than 80k).

You have many more than that in jobs lost due to DOGE, losses in retail due to tariffs, and other markets due to a lack of consumer spending (due to tariffs/inflation primarily).

He didnt do anything wrong - he was entirely within his rights to ask for a supervisor.

Holy shit.

I dont think I have any capacity to put up with someone so painfully and wilfully fucking ignorant.

I am saying that starting to yell at every cop that pulls you over and refuse to ID yourself is not really going to change the system, if you did it for a thousand years

What in the fuck do you think brought about this:

burning down the 3rd precinct

Because if I fucking recall, George Floyd was not fighting back.

So what in the absolute fuck are you talking about?

Allow me to update with a personal experience:

“Can I see your ID?”

“Sure, here you go. You know this is bullshit, though. My brake lights aren’t out. Those are parking lights”

“Well now this is happening, get out of the car”

And then I was arrested for suspicion of being under the influence (because I had the gall to talk back to a cop), and my car was impounded for being unfit for the road.

Just to note here - no, I was not under the influence of anything, and my brake lights absolutely were not out. My friend recording audio on his feature phone (because thats how long back this story goes) got the charges dropped, and the goddamn manual in the fucking car proved me right about the damn parking lights.

Yes this shit happens. Yes this shit continues to happen.

Yes, you are incredibly fucking ignorant if you think otherwise.

Edit: I hit send too quickly because of how pissed off your comment made me.

That’s new, like within just the last few years that it started happening consistently. How did that change happen?

BECAUSE PEOPLE STARTED PROTESTING AFTER THIS SHIT KEPT HAPPENING, AND PEOPLE FUCKING DIED.

Thats how.

Edit 2 because of how much this pissed me off.

And its still only the worst and most newsworthy examples, and even for those many end up being a slap on the wrist at best.

People still getting fucking shot and killed in their own bedrooms because cops can’t get a fucking address right, attending talks where they get told how hot it is to get laid after you killed someone, with far right pieces of shit being ingrained in the police for literally fucking decades, and you really think just fucking comply is a “smart” decision.

Ffs, the absolute goddamn privilege in those replies.

A traffic stop for a specific nonsensical and nonexistant infraction

It wasn’t raining.

There was no reason for them to escalate.

This is a common tactic used to go after people of color, it isn’t remotely new.

Why in the absolute fuck are you advocating for people to just swallow fucking boot all the damn time?

Challenging this nonsense is the way, historically, any change has happened. You are just arguing against people doing the right thing and saying “but its OK because cops are taught to do this”.

No shit. Thats the fucking problem. He knew what was happening and what would happen, thats why he asked for a supervisor.

The fact that you think this would have gone substantially better for him by just complying shows a complete and utter ignorance of the history of policing.

Site manager with cloud and on prem hosted in a single view. The benefit is for MSPs.

I have plenty of thoughts about their majority shareholders.

Its just none of those thoughts are positive.

They only ever shit on anyone trying to do anything.

Oh and lots of “bOtH sIdEs!!”

NYC does not extrapolate out to the US, or things would look very different these days.