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I’m a nurse working ER. I’m also introverted and like keeping to myself. I also may be on the spectrum (haven’t been diagnosed, but I find social cues and when people are being sincere, joking or lying very difficult to understand. I understand what people say literally. Why would they otherwise speak?)

I also separate my job from my personal life, as my job is not my identity. I don’t care about my coworkers’ life but ask the ones who know more than me about anything job related, to learn, to be a better nurse, to have more opportunities.

Today I had a conversation with 2 managers where I was fired. Not from the hospital due to my union but from the ER. In a nutshell, as they put it: they (whoever they might be) see that I’m motivated and want to learn but they find my way of speaking demanding.

I have absolutely no idea what they mean. They didn’t provide any example. They however provided an example where somebody claims I told a student to put a line. I never did such a thing, but I have the feeling they don’t believe me. The never put anything on writing, or gave me anything to sign. I won’t be signing anything from them.

Then one of the managers started a monologue about he’s been working 30 years there, that communication is important. True, communication here is extremely relevant, but about procedures, patients and who does what, not about why Americans are idiots or how many children you have, not to the point of ignoring alarms, not to the point where I am the only one entering patient’s data in the computer while my coworkers speak about what to cook for dinner. Oftentimes I was the only one noticing how we’re under supplied or that some ECG cables don’t work while the chatty ones did they thing and ignored I was working while they lazy around.

I didn’t get to say all of this because they interrupted. It’s like they believe the talkative ones over me. Why would I want to work for people like that?

After this both sides talked but didn’t listen to what the other side had to say. I felt they weren’t listening to me. Why should I listen to them?

Before I left I told them I’m looking for a unit where I can learn. That’s ALL I need from the workplace to be better. To them this is not good enough.

To me it looks like this: you don’t mingle with us (us being coworkers and management), therefore you are worse than us and deserve to be ignored, but I’m not at a workplace to socialize, but to learn and to earn money. Am I the only person on earth to think like this? Why can’t people keep their opinions to themselves? I leave them alone and only talk about work. If I have nothing to say, I say nothing and learn. I don’t understand why people are so needy for conversation and thin skinned. I didn’t say this out loud because in my past people have bullied me for being me.

I was also accused of not being polite.

I’ll miss working that ER because in the 8 weeks I was there I learned stuff you don’t learn on other units. To me this unit was a good one because I learned new things and people left me alone during downtime to figure out how procedures and machines work, people didn’t complain when I looked the internet for instruction manuals or asked coworkers if we give sodium bicarbonate by metabolic acidosis or alkalosis. I was an motivated coworker, even when people who were supposed to train me sat and did nothing while I was taking samples. I always asked what I didn’t know.

I’ll also miss working with most doctors, because they were always ready to teach me stuff, so I really don’t understand why managers say my way of speaking is demanding.

My managers don’t see or don’t want to see that people treat you better and forgive your mistakes if you give them attention, if you’re likable. I’m not likable. They also don’t see that they say a lot of stupid crap if a coworker prefers to keep to himself. I also find this sad. I feel they think I’m doing this on purpose.

If you’re an extrovert and have read so far: I don’t think you understand how taxing is to care about things that are simply, irrelevant. It’s like my managers expect me to make theatrics and give attention to everyone I work with. I already did this on a previous job and it was ridiculous: fake smiling to a secretary and asking her stupid stuff for 5 minutes straight, smiling like a clown because otherwise she would feel offended. Why is that my job? Sometimes I work with 8 coworkers. Am I supposed to be a sucker with all of them? I find that childish.

I feel they presented an ultimatum: either give us and coworkers attention or be fired. I didn’t bulge because they didn’t listen.

And I still don’t know if this is a good outcome, because I’m not going to change what I am to conform to some extroverted standards of what a good coworkers is supposed to be, because I can’t and I don’t understand them (extroverts).

I don’t know if this puts me on the spectrum and I find it unfair being treated so differently because I like to keep to myself and learn during downtime.

I’ve always have such issues working for other employers. It’s clear this is who I am and trying to change me it’s like expecting a gay to like women.

But if this means I’m alone in the universe, that I’m always the loner people always talk shit about and marginalize, how am I supposed to live my life and work life then?

ETA: I inquired the union about protections for people on the spectrum and I’m waiting for an answer but even if I get a diagnosis I don’t want to expose myself to more bullying by disclosing it to my employer: the hospital I work at is full of gossips.

So what do I do?

  • foggy@lemmy.world
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    Hey so this is a YouTube video that is like 4 hours long but I am seeing a direct similarity here. I’m no doctor so, watch for yourself and see if it resonates.

    Dr K is a monk turned psychiatrist who created a platform for helping get gamers mental health treatment. This is an interview with a streamer named Jason Thor Hall. He’s in the middle of a downward spiral during this interview and still to this day.

    The tl;dw is that your communication style is (probably), to plenty, an oasis. So many people cannot stand the inane nonsense speak at work. However, you’re rigid in maintaining that oasis. And for those for whom it’s not an oasis, this rigidity is seen as standoffish. Sometimes to the point where people will assume it’s because you think they’re stupid, and will drive them to seek the gap in the ‘armor’ of your communication style.

    I think this will resonate with many people who feel the way you feel. Myself included.

    https://www.youtube.com/live/7jDPsBh2AyQ

    You can skip the first 10-15 mins

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      I second this. I mostly prefer to keep to myself, but I have started seeing socializing with coworkers as a work duty. It is now no more taxing than doing paperwork. People seem to like me and seek my help, which was not the case previously. It’s also easier to get people to help me.

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      Are you implying that Thor is autistic like OP? Because he very much hasn’t stated so himself not ever talked about the topic as far as I’m aware.

      I say this because Thor is very much a narcissist and equating this two things seems pretty disingenuous. The reason Thor is in a spiral is completely different to what OP is going through.

      At least it doesn’t sound like OP used his massive influence to harm a small movement out of childish spite and was then punished by their arrogance, while completely unable or unwilling to understand maybe they are not perfect people and gamers.

      For OP: Maybe you’re autistic, maybe just introverted. But like some other poster said, the unfortunate reality is that, in most jobs, it doesn’t matter what you know, but who you know, and most supervisors will pick someone they like over someone that’s a good worker.

      We are also only hearing your side of the story which might be painting a different picture to what people on the other side see.

      It’s also completely possible it’s actually unrelated to you and it’s them just looking for an excuse to move/fire people while skirting around Union protections.

      My only recommendation for OP is, next time make sure you get whatever they say in writing. If it’s not on writing, it didn’t happen, for better or worse.

      If you’re looking to build relationships at work, I’d say you need to put in an effort and figure out some way to enjoy those social spaces, it doesn’t have to be the same way everyone else does. But no one is going to enjoy talking to you if you don’t enjoy talking to them.

      You don’t have to, of course, but your coworkers don’t have to either. It takes two to dance.

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        Watch the video before going off on accusations.

        That’s a wild takeaway from my post.