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Their capitalism has yet to enter late stage. It’s only a matter of time.
They aren’t:
- What about social democracy / democratic socialism / the Nordic model? Isn’t Sweden socialist?
- On the unraveling of the Nordic welfare states: increasing inequality and forced austerity.
- Scandinavia’s covert role in western imperialism
- Why can’t you acheive socialism through voting in our current democracies?
they aren’t really left-wing at all… maybe from an american perspective because they have some welfare state aspects like state healthcare? they are still capitalist and any socialised aspects have been diminishing intensely since 2008 in favour of regular old neoliberalism. sweden is literally a monarchy which recently joined the nazi alliance NATO, and the scandinavian states are firmly on the side of the US and imperialism when it comes to geopolitics, as well as benefiting from the incredible exploitation of the global south like any global north countries. socially they have been trending more right-wing too like most of europe, anti-immigrant and anti-queer sentiments rising. nordic socialism was never real socialism, it was a flavour of european social democracy with all the national and social chauvinism and continued exploitation by a capitalist ruling class that entails. and any commendable aspects like i said have been steadily whittled away since 2008.
nazi alliance NATO
- Gabriel Rockhill, 2020: The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It
- The Intercept, 2021: Meet NATO, the Dangerous “Defensive” Alliance Trying to Run the World
- CounterPunch, 2022: NATO is Not a Defensive Alliance
- Noam Chomsky, 2023: NATO “most violent, aggressive alliance in the world”
- Thomas Fazi, 2024: NATO: 75 years of war, unprovoked aggressions and state-sponsored terrorism
It was.
Eugenics was considered left wing around the 1930s. In Canada, the “father of Medicare” initially supported eugenics but realized how awful it was pretty quickly. The women who got universal sufferage similarly supported eugenics.
As a lefty, it sucks, but we need to be aware of our past and avoid similar mistakes.
As recent as the 90’s it also used to be left-wing to oppose immigration, since it was seen as a way for the right to devalue labor and lower wages.
A lot has changed.
That’s how immigration is used as is, but borders divide the working class against themselves and should be removed.
If only nation states had to compete on quality of life to keep their population up. If only nation states could be dissolved.
I’d say the Nordics are somewhat economically left-wing.
They’re not socially progressive, no.
Compared to the US, I’d say they’re extremely socially progressive.
Healthcare, low gender pay gap, higher “minimum” wages (I know there’s no legal minimum most places but there are commonly accepted lowest wages), very low homelessness, very LGBT+ accepting.
Socially progressive enough? Not for my tastes. But it’s a lot better than the US in social systems
I’m as left as they come but the gender pay gap is a myth. It’s all choice of field. If you average male teachers, it’s going to be about the same as average female teachers. Going up and down for experience and other stuff, but it’ll be close, the thing is, teachers don’t get paid much and there’s more female teachers than male. The opposite is true in IT or other digital/computing worlds. They pay better than teachers, but there’s more men in this profession than women. The gender pay gap is a myth made up by averaging all employed people. I’m sorry but that is not a thing. If someone was still paying people significantly more or less based on their sex, people would be up in arms.
There are so many things to fight for in the name of justice, but this one isn’t it.
I’d suggest doing a little reading on what the political spectrum means, because they aren’t.
When you think a Siberian winter is normal spring weather, even ice cream seems warm.
Are they?
You must be American to ask something like this.
America is so damn red the rest of the world looks ike a solid shade of blue.
In a cold climate, those who preferred “every man for himself” died a long time ago.
They’re not particularly left wing, they just actually care about what happens to their citizens.
It’s kind of sad that we’ve reached the point where everyone having a place to sleep at night and a modicum of dignity is considered to be a radically leftist idea
