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    …there are times to dehumanize people, this is one of them…this is a monster, not a human being, who has built an empire of monsters, counting on us calling them human beings…

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      No. Don’t flinch on this. A human is doing this, and a human can do it again. There are no consequences for a beast in the woods. We do not hold a bear accountable for his actions. As soon as we think it’s only monsters who are capable of monstrosity, we turn it into a simple matter of defending against a threat from without, but the danger is in our midst. A human is doing this, and we have to hold that human accountable.

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        Exactly. One of the biggest takeaways from holocaust education is that people worked tirelessly to cause it, and even more people stood by and did nothing while it happened. Monstrous people worked to cause it, but they were people nonetheless. And that means it could happen again, if people get complacent.

        And the same could be said here too. They may be monstrous for raping kids, but calling them monsters works to dehumanize them. It dismisses the actions as part of their nature, which dismisses the intent they have. They’re people. People did this. People will continue to do this. And that means the public should do everything they can to hold these people accountable.

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          I don’t believe “we” learned a fucking thing from the Holocaust at this point in history

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        …no, the humans are following the monster, this is not human behaviour, the humans have decided that this monster is human…

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          This is human behavior. Being selfish and tearing down everything you don’t understand, grabbing power with both hands and using it for your own enrichment, abusing and treating people as disposable, and lying to get more of all of it no matter who it hurts has been human behavior for a very long time. And following it because you think that you can use it, or that you can snap up the scraps that fall from the table, or just because you believe it? That’s human, too. It’s not good, but it’s something that the human race has always been capable of. We see all of both of these things in the oldest documents we have.

          If it’s possible to ever grow beyond that as a species, we have to recognize it as a part of us so that we can fight it even when it’s not imminent; if it’s something outside of us, we only have to react to it when it wanders out of the woods. But it’s within us; we have to act before it rears its head and devours us.

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      Yeah I tried to make that argument a few weeks ago. It didn’t go over too well. But yeah he’s a bloated corpse.