Lol fair enough, I feel like it’s the same people who use undocumented workers are now surprised that the guy who ran on deporting everyone who isn’t a white male is deporting their income at this point. The complete stupidity of the right-wing is just baffling.

How would that work? Rural areas actually have a lot of immigrants. I live in a rural area and it’s probably 20% immigrants. This seems like it would hurt rural areas more than the blue cities.

1. i don’t scour your post history for sources, i look at the stuff you send me. Pro tip, the username specifies individual people on this platform

The multiple users I’m replying to can get muddy, my bad.

2. 45% of Republicans and GOP-leaning independents is not 50+

You are correct, I think it was from the right leaning side of men that own firearms. The reality is the left is heavily outgunned…

3. Dems and dem leaning people are not “the left”. fun fact, dems aren’t even center left. they’re center right.

They are the largest group, and like it or not, compared to what the right wing has turned into are the left.

regardless, none of the above are shooting anyone but fellow civilians.

That wasn’t the point of my posts.

I’m honestly surprised that this bill past without mass ads rejecting it by the hospital companies. A lot of companies who own and operate rural hospitals all over the nation got a lot of their income directly from Medicaid.

You just contradicted your first paragraph with your second…they don’t go there because those groups are armed.

I literally posted this already.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/24/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/

About 20% of the left is armed. Compared to 50+% of the right.

Which you clearly missed half of what I’ve pointed out. The left isnt armed and the right who is, are the ones mostly causing this shit. The fuck are you on about. So pointless arguing with some of you euro kids, you have no clue what’s going on over here.

You wrote no civil war is breaking out because you were comparing your disarmed population to the USA. Don’t back petal now.

Less than 200k total in those groups… including those post coup, which also includes loyalist to the Junta.

Myanmars population is 50+ million.

A single state New Jersey which has the lowest per capita ownership has more firearms in civ hands than those groups combined.

https://ammo.com/articles/gun-ownership-by-state

That is not an armed populous.

Isn’t this the same thing as asking a murder if they did anything wrong? Why the fuck is her statements even valid after the private DOJ meeting.

Myanmar was heavily restricted on access to firearms. It’s why the 3d printed guns were used a ton early on before the free people could get access to firearms. The junta has relaxed this for supporters of the regime, but saying that they were armed is a bit of a stretch.

I think (and this person can correct me if I’m wrong, it’s really how I understood it) the idea was: despite all the 2A theory of “we need guns to defend from tyrannical government, and yes, if it were to happen I’d take up arms” the US is (not so slowly anymore) sliding toward the tyrannical government and we saw no usage of 2A to fight against it.

Again, 20% of the left is armed or lives with someone who is armed… nearly %60 is the right…the right is driving this fascist bullshit. No wonder it’s not being used.

Y>our point could be right: it’s because people with the gun generally agree with the government, so no reason to use 2A.

Exactly.

Next question is: even if all leftist were armed, would we start to see ICE agent being shot? No idea.

If ICE starts shooting people, you better bet there would be return fire.

Oh and, on another note, to compare the US and Myanmar is NOT a good comparison from any point of view.

I didn’t compare it to the USA at all. I stated that they’re population was not armed and they still have a civil war happening. Which is counter point to the guy stating that civil wars don’t happen if civs aren’t armed like in his country. Which is bullshit.

is this a strawman or just intentionally obtuse?

You acted like civil wars happen because the population is armed…so no it wasn’t a strawman it was to point out that you’re ignorantly wrong.

aaahh there we go, conspiratorial anti “the media” shit that i usually expect from the good ol 2A crowd.

Says the guy who lives in a different country and assumes how the usa is going to be in a civil war because we’re armed…keep your nose in your own countries business. What we do here doesn’t effect you.

He’s saying he wants to keep the cops on his payroll if I’m reading that correctly.

Notice how no civil war is breaking out.

The fuck are you on about? Civil wars happen regardless of the population being armed or not. See Myanmar.

Notice how nobody wants to start a shootout with armed forces?

Who is nobody? Cause in the states it’s getting that way soon.

Notice how the only real world impact of civvies arming themselves is more civvies die?

That’s not how that works at all.

I’m from a country with sensible gun laws and no gestapo snatching people off the streets.

Uhh ok? So why the fuck do you give a shit about what happens here in the states? You don’t know the dynamics here at all, and just see what you are fed by your local news.

yet we still take to the streets in protest of a far right party blasting past constitutional lines

Cool, we’re trying to do that as well…

they’re currently under investigation and potentially to be banned in the future.

Ok let me know how that goes… assuming you actually post where you’re from

All without posturing as armed defenders of democracy watching it’s downfall from the sidelines.

Again…the left isn’t armed like the right is. The right wing wants the crap that’s happening here. You’re not making any sense at all.

The whole point of the criticism of 2A is that every single argument for it is bullshit with no basis in the real world.

You…you mean other than right now? When the gestapo are growing rapidly and straight up kidnapping people? Right now is the entire argument for it.

This comment is the shit I’m literally talking about. I’m assuming you’re on the left and you see shit like this daily, and probably say fascist are running the show and you still stick your head in the sand.

Neat!

The left owns a tiny fraction of the firearms in civ hands. This isn’t some dig at the left. It should be a wakeup call. I’m sure plenty have me tagged here as 2A nut job because I bring it up when shit like this shows up in the news. I’m strongly on the left and I know a lot of other left leaning people, almost all of them are anti-2a/anti-gun.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/24/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/

The left… isn’t armed. It’s completely outgunned.

Not a reason to not arm yourself. You’re just proving why you should be armed.

This is why the left needs to get armed. You disarmed yourself while the right wing continued to buy arms and now your “surprise Pikachu face” that the right is not stopping this…what logic are you trying to lay here?