• DigDoug@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    Anybody who shits on trans people “for the children” or “for the women” should be viewed with suspicion.

    They’re saying that because the only reason they can fathom that people would transition is to assault women and children. The fact that that’s where their mind goes says much more about them than about trans people.

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    23 hours ago

    Trans people put children at risk of realizing there are alternatives to the dogmatic conservative view of gender.

    Rapists help impose patriarchal control over the population by traumatizing anyone who would resist or rebel against the culture of submission.

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    Reminder: not a democrat, not an immigrant, not a drag queen, not a trans athlete, not a member of the LGBTQ community.

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    The real risk to girls clearly comes from hypocrites like him, not from trans people. Clean your own house before spewing hate.

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    Anyone who has a problem with trans people should be assumed to be a pedophile. No one without some serious skeletons in their closet is that concerned about other people’s lives and bodies.

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      Anyone who has a problem with trans people should be assumed to be a pedophile.

      That’s… a bleak path towards a different flavor of hysteria. You end up with people digging shit takes out of each other’s posting feeds and calling one another pedophiles.

      No one without some serious skeletons in their closet is that concerned about other people’s lives and bodies.

      Lots of people are pumped full of anti-Trans hysteria, anti-Trans propaganda, and ideological dogma about gender. And if one of these people finds out a friend or a family member is coming out as transgender, and doesn’t know how to process that news politely, I cannot imagine how telling them “You’re a child fucker” helps anyone. Least of all anyone who has actually experienced sexual assault as a child.

      Turning pedophile into an insult rather than a crime just further weaponizes it for folks with the biggest megaphones. That’s how you get “The Sound of Freedom” mobilizing lynch mobs of know-nothing bigots.

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        Eh. I’m not the better person on this. I have no problem treating bigots the way they treat others. I’m a trans person, and I have to live with a constant parade of politicians and influencers calling me and my people pedophiles simply for existing. Sorry, turnabout is fair play. And really, the GOP really is the party of pedophilia. Their entire worldview is pro child fucking. From their encouragement of child marriage, to their complete rejection of the rights of children, to the general belief of “Father knows best.” Their ideal world is one where girls are married off to older powerful men by the time they are 14 years old. It is not a coincidence that so many GOP politicians are arrested for crimes against children. It’s their whole worldview.

        I’m not going to start accusing random parents of being child fuckers if they simply have a few questions when their kid comes out. But if you are a politician or influencer, who makes attacking trans people a core part of your brand? Someone really needs to look at your hard drive. You’re probably a pedophile.

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          I have no problem treating bigots the way they treat others.

          That works when the media isn’t saturated with bigotry.

          And really, the GOP really is the party of pedophilia.

          I wish this was just a partisan thing. Epstein had dirt across the board, which is why he was as warmly greeted in the NYC cocktail scene and Silicon Valley as Florida or Texas.

          I’m not going to start accusing random parents of being child fuckers if they simply have a few questions when their kid comes out. But if you are a politician or influencer, who makes attacking trans people a core part of your brand?

          Then you’re welcome to take your shot. But claiming JK Rowling is a pedophile simply because she’s a chronic, shameless TERF does nothing.

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            Ah yes, both sides are the same. Are there sexual predators in the Democratic party? Of course. But you’re insane if you think the rates are anywhere similar. And again, it is not simply that there are some pedophiles in the Republican party. Pedophilia is baked into the entire platform and ethos of the Republican party. It IS a pedophile party. The Democrats just have a few pedophiles among their ranks. See pedocon theory.

            And Rowling likely does have some pedophilic tendencies. She’s literally obsessed with the genitals of children. Whether she’s personally diddled a kid, I don’t know. Maybe she’s resisted her urges. But she demonstrates clear pedophilic tendencies. It is not normal to be obsessed with the genitals of children.

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              Ah yes, both sides are the same.

              When they’re sharing an aisle on the Lolita Express, absolutely.

              But you’re insane if you think the rates are anywhere similar.

              So many of these political elites came from the same extended families, went to the same schools, worked on behalf of the same businesses for the same oligarchs, and continue to advance the same socio-economic interests. At some point, you can’t keep pretending that your Kristen Sinemas and your Martha Blackburns are playing for different teams when they’re collaborating on identical sets of policy.

              And Rowling likely does have some pedophilic tendencies. She’s literally obsessed with the genitals of children.

              It’s a cute line to throw in someone’s face, until they throw it right back.

              Whether she’s personally diddled a kid, I don’t know.

              That’s too bad, because it’s central to the accusation.

              And when you follow this to its logical conclusion, you just end up with the fucking Labour Party saying “Nobody is allowed to even say the word ‘Transgender’ without holding up a picture of their birth certificate on the internet.”

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        I feel like these days, I have limited patience for gullibility. Quite often now, “They tricked me” or “They threatened me” is actually being used as an excuse for one’s own bigotry.

        A hundred thousand ads telling me that puppies are monstrous mind-controlled Russian robots aiming to rape women in my community could not convince me of such a “fact”. And I feel that the political messaging around Trans people is just as convincing.

        The strongest negative opinion I’ve seen from an honest, non-trolling non-partisan southern voter, was that he was upset about “Trans people taking our tax dollars”. But when asked further, he said “If they want to pay for their surgeries themselves (which they do) he’s totally fine with them.” All the rest are hiding their own deep-seated illogical hatred. Hardly anyone is solely defined as being a victim of indoctrination.

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          Quite often now, “They tricked me” or “They threatened me” is actually being used as an excuse for one’s own bigotry.

          It’s an effective cover because it is, in effect, hiding in a crowd of clueless people.

          A hundred thousand ads telling me that puppies are monstrous mind-controlled Russian robots aiming to rape women in my community could not convince me of such a “fact”.

          You know, its funny. A long while ago, I was with my dog in a hotel (that was dog friendly) and she was 25 lbs, curly-haired, always smiling, loved everybody. I come out of my room and there’s a woman standing in the hall with her back turned. She spins around, sees the dog, completely panicks, and runs shrieking in the other direction. I try to apologize, my dog gets excited and runs to the edge of her lease trying to chase her, and I never see her again.

          Ask around, and apparently there are parts of the world where dogs aren’t common pets but sort of a chronic, sometimes dangerous pest. And it isn’t unusual for people in these countries to have a phobia of dogs. Even sweet little goofy ones.

          It’s irrational, it’s frustrating, and it really hurts how people with friendly pets can get around. It’s not a problem of “facts”, just feelings. And for people who grow up in a household where a thing is demonized, getting them out of that mindset can often take more time and effort than it took to get them there.

          The strongest negative opinion I’ve seen from an honest, non-trolling non-partisan southern voter, was that he was upset about “Trans people taking our tax dollars”.

          Well fuck that guy. But, again, anti-tax hysterics are just baked into the pie in the US, too.

          But when asked further, he said “If they want to pay for their surgeries themselves (which they do) he’s totally fine with them.”

          That’s a libertarian line that falls apart under the slightest pressure. Somehow, everything a trans person does magically ends up costing the government money. It’s the same game played with abortion. Or with race and gender, for that matter. "Other"ing inevitably means segregation, with the intention of making life so miserable for the Other’d individual that they either conform or flee.

          I still would not recommend calling him a pedophile over it. Where does that get you?

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    It’s all projection and it always has been. If a conservative states anything about protecting children it’s because they themselves are a significant threat to children, without exception.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    State Sen. J. Stuart Adams loves child-rapists.

    Attorneys also pointed out that, under the old law, if the accused rapist had been 17 and his victim had been 14 years old instead of 13 years old, the accused rapist would’ve been charged with a Class B misdemeanor rather than felony charges.

    But he wasn’t and she wasn’t. Can I point out that if I hadn’t premeditated a murder I could qualify for manslaughter charges? No. Because the law is defined and not malleable. Unless you’re related to a senator named J. Stuart Adams, who loves child-rapists.